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Eggscelent Execution: 2012 World's Masters Finalist Team Analysis

blog-wolfe_exeggutor.jpgSo for those of you who don't know me, my name is Wolfe Glick (Wolfey), and I am a supreme Pokénob. I qualified by winning US Nationals, and in preparation for Worlds I knew I was going to need an entirely new team. Despite having used a somewhat standard team at Nationals, I knew that if I wanted to perform well at Worlds I would need to create a team that was completely strange and original. Deciding that much was easy enough, however the next step was a little trickier. Where do I start? Despite Daniel Nolan (Zog) being my normal go-to guy when I wanted something silly, he had decided to take a vacation for all of my preparation for Worlds. I was on my own. To come up with a starting point, I decided to meditate on the power of the Zog, and I recalled him telling me about his 2010 team, which was centered around Skill Swap Venomoth resetting Rain and powering up his Choice Scarf Kyogre. With the mighty Zog at the front of my mind, I began thinking, and the following is what I came up with:

The Team

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Mama Zaki (Cresselia) (F) @ Leftovers

Trait: Levitate

EVs: 252 HP / 52 Def / 4 SAtk / 124 SDef / 76 Spd

Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)

- Skill Swap

- Psyshock

- Sunny Day

- Icy Wind

I knew right away that I was going to use Skill Swap Cresselia partnered with Substitute Heatran. The few matches I had tested pre-Nationals with this combo proved to be incredibly effective, which gave me a starting point when building for Worlds. At first I had been using the same Expert Belt Cresselia I ran at Nationals, but in testing I found the bulk was more necessary. Icy Wind was essential for team support, lowering the Speed of both of my opponent's Pokémon, and it was never  a question as to whether I should use it on my set. Psyshock was a move I was reluctant to use, as without offense it does not do much damage to anything, however I knew it would be unfortunate to get stuck with Icy Wind as my only attacking move and I was correct. Psyshock paid off in this tournament due to its ability to break Thundurus Substitutes, of which I saw a surprising amount. Sunny Day was added as an afterthought a few days before the tournament because in practice Nightblade7000 (aka Ben7000) beat me consistently with a rain team that also carried Metagross (because I was unable to bring Heatran vs. Rain). Sunny Day was a great choice over Light Screen as it was able to boost Heatran's Heat Waves, weaken Water moves vs. Heatran and Terrakion, make Harvest activate every turn, and negate the Special Defense boost from Tyranitar.

I want to touch on Skill Swap a bit more, as it had utility outside of only passing Levitate to Heatran. Skill Swap is able to reset weather, reset Intimidate, take away Swift Swim/Sand Rush and pass it to Terrakion or Heatran, take Dry Skin/Water Absorb and make Heatran completely untouchable vs. Rain, take Levitate away from an opponent whose partner was spamming Earthquake, as well as an almost unlimited amount of other uses. I feel obligated to provide some examples of times I used Skill Swap in this tournament besides just passing Levitate. In my Top 8 match vs Sejun Park, game one I found myself with a slight lead (4-3) with my Heatran at -3 speed and 30 percent left, Cresselia at -4 and 45 percent health, Thundurus with 85 percent remaining, and Exeggutor with 60 Percent remaining vs. Full HP top, 1 HP paralyzed Scarf Cresselia and low HP Life Orb Garchomp. I knew that if I played smart, I could win on timer and not worry about closing the game although my foe at this point could not beat Exeggutor. With 4 minutes remaining on the game clock, I chose my move. I recalled Heatran for Exeggutor, who ended up taking a Fight Gem Close Combat and healing HP back with Sitrus. I was afraid of Sucker Punch from Hitmontop, so instead of firing off Psyshock I Skill Swapped away its Intimidate. Between all the animations, Gems, Skill Swap resetting Intimidate, Icy Wind dropping both stats, Leftovers, Harvest and a second Sitrus berry, the game ended this turn despite 5 minutes being on the clock at the end of the previous turn. The second example was game one vs. Abel Martin Sanz (flash_mc) in the Top 4. He had a Thundurus behind a Substitute, and I was afraid of it Paralyzing my whole team. I decided to take Prankster from it, and then break its Sub and Icy Wind it the next turn. Because of this I was able to priority Sunny Day my Heatran switch-in and KO before Abel could Paralyze me. Skill Swap's potential was endless, and I was using it nearly every game.

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Papa Fuego (Heatran) (F) @ Chople Berry

Trait: Flash Fire

EVs: 244 HP / 52 Def / 76 SAtk / 4 SDef / 132 Spd

Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)

- Heat Wave

- Earth Power

- Protect

- Substitute

Cresselia's partner in crime, Heatran was a very important member of this team. With Cresselia eliminating Heatran's Water and Ground weaknesses and hitting hard vs. Fighting-types, Heatran was a tank that was nearly impossible to KO and was able to effectively wall a majority of my opponents. Heat Wave is fairly self explanatory on this set, as its ability to deal spread damage was worth the lower accuracy in my opinion. I chose Earth Power as my secondary attacking move because of the coverage it provided and its ability to do damage to Tyranitar once I had eliminated Sand. I do not regret my choice in attacking moves, and it very rarely was a problem that I could not hit for enough damage or the right type, as sun-boosted Heat Waves deal heavy damage even to Pokémon that resist them. Protect was an obvious choice on this set, as I often needed Icy Wind support in order to set up effectively. Substitute was the last slot on this set and was absolutely crucial. The ability to wall Garchomp with Heatran is amazing, and with only one weakness and a boatload of resistances Heatran is a pain to take down even without Substitute, let alone firing off Sun boosted Heat Waves while walling everything that comes its way. Blocking Thunder Wave was also very nice as it allowed me to set up against opposing Cresselia. I chose Chople Berry originally just to test as it seemed like a good choice, however it is an item I never saw fit to change. Heatran took plenty of Fighting attacks and having Chople Berry as a safety net was incredibly useful.

The EVs are a bit specific. Heatran has enough Defense and HP to survive max Attack Hitmontop Fight Gem Close Combat and still have enough HP to pull off a Substitute afterwards. I ran enough Speed to outspeed most Hitmontop, and still be one point slower than Cresselia so that Sunny Day would activate before Heat Wave. Heatran was also able to outspeed most Pokémon after Cresselia's Icy Wind and Sub to block threatening attacks. The rest I put in Special Attack, with 4 in Special Defense for good measure. Some players previous to Worlds had been advising me to remove EVs out of bulk and add them to Special Attack so that I could hit harder. However the bulk was very necessary. Against Sejun I was able to survive his max Attack Life Orb Garchomp Rock Slide and his Modest max Special Attack Cresselia's Icy Wind (twice) and still have my Substitute survive. It is important to remember that when using the Skill Swap combo with Heatran that he loses his immunity to Fire, so often times after you have KO'd the Earthquake user it may be worth it to Skill Swap Flash Fire back if fighting a Pokémon such as Volcarona for example.

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HuMetabou (Thundurus) (M) @ Electric Gem

Trait: Prankster

EVs: 196 HP / 204 SDef / 108 Spd

Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)

- Thunderbolt

- Taunt

- Thunder Wave

- Hidden Power [ice]

Forgive me everyone, for this is about as standard as you can get. Thundurus is a Pokémon that I absolutely despise fighting against due to its ability to Paralyze my entire team. I was sick and tired of bulky Thundurus walking all over my team, so I decided to carry a specific counter. Despite searching through countless terrible ideas, the only solution I could find to the Electric jerk was a Thundurus of my own specifically EV'd to outspeed every other Thundurus while still retaining a majority of its bulk. In discussing the spread with Metabou we (he) decided that this spread, which can take Timid Latios Dragon Gem Draco Meteor 13/16 times and outspeed and Taunt other Thundurus first was worth the small loss of bulk. The moves here are unfortunately not very special either. I went with Electric Gem Thunderbolt because both Sitrus Berry and Leftovers were taken. Taunt was for opposing Thundurus, countering Trick Room and easing prediction. Thunder Wave was used because I am a hypocrite, and also because I like the Speed support as only Cresselia has a way to control Speed outside of Thundurus. Hidden Power Ice was very useful, although I only used it vs. Sejun to KO his Garchomp in Worlds, in practice however I found it to be very helpful. Thundurus was one of the only things that I could use when fighting against Latios, as Paralysis coupled with Terrakion was my main method to beat it though that still involved sacrificing one of my Pokémon.

Ironically, the few Thundurus I saw at Worlds weren't bulky at all -- they were offensive. The amount of fast Thundurus I saw with Substitute was surprising, and often times my own Thundurus could not perform his role due to me not accounting for the presence of offensive Thundurus in the metagame. Despite my general dislike of Thundurus, I will say he performed his role well. I did not bring him often, but he was never deadweight. Whether he was Paralyzing everything, or Taunting defensive Pokémon in order to ease prediction, or KO'ing Garchomp with Hidden Power Ice, he always supported the team in some way even if it wasn't what I intended.

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BREAKDANCE (Hitmontop) (M) @ Chesto Berry

Trait: Intimidate

EVs: 252 HP / 12 Atk / 84 Def / 156 SDef / 4 Spd

Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)

- Fake Out

- Rest

- Close Combat

- Stone Edge

Now we get back to the more fun aspect of this team. I have had plenty of people come up to me or message me stating that they really do not understand the point of Resto Chesto Top, or why I used defensive Top, or how my Hitmontop is bad and I should feel bad. And those people may be right, Resto Chesto Hitmontop might be a terrible idea. On its own. However, on this team Hitmontop was incredibly valuable. And that is because I didn't use him for a glass cannon powerhouse who puts offensive pressure on the foe. Instead, Hitmontop was used primarily for Intimidate and Fake Out support. One of my favorite leads was Cresselia/Hitmontop. Turn one my opponent would protect in order to burn Fake Out, and I would switch immediately into Heatran and Skill Swap before the foe knew what hit them. I could then bring Top in again next turn and have my opponent at -2 Attack on both Pokémon, another Fake Out, and even more BREAKDANCE! Intimidate was crucial in ensuring certain attacks could not break Heatran's Substitute, such as Tyranitars Rock Slide. Now that we've covered the theory behind why I decided to use bulky Hitmontop, lets get to the more confusing aspects of this set.

Fake Out I have already explained the purpose and the theory behind. Close Combat was the next attack I chose, as I almost never stayed in after using it and with its bulk I was able to switch out quite easily. My team was built to switch around nearly every turn if possible so Close Combat's drawbacks were never an issue. I had decided that Sucker Punch was bad and was not worth my time, so I opted for Stone Edge as my secondary attacking move. Stone Edge is a move I am not particularly fond of, as the low accuracy made it quite unpredictable. However when I attacked with Hitmontop I was generally setting up KO's for a partner or wearing down Pokémon, and due to my already low attack stat, I opted for more power in my moves rather than my EVs. And finally, the move that everyone has been wondering about, REST! Rest was a very important move on this set. When I would switch in Hitmontop late game he would often have low HP, and my opponent would Protect, knowing that at this stage in the game he could not afford to take Fake Out and my partner's attack. This allowed me to heal off all my damage and, more importantly, gain a psychological advantage over my opponent, allowing me to use Fake Out in real life. This team was also able to abuse the timer, as rather than complain about it I decided to recognize that the timer could end more games than my own Pokémon could, and Rest was able to restore enough HP that when my opponent stalled to win the game on timer, they ended up losing due to Rest. In order to understand why I used this Hitmontop set and spread, you need to have a more holistic view of my team. The EVs were very specific as well, allowing me to live a max Special Attack Timid Latios Dragon Gem Draco Meteor, Psyshock, or Psychic, to give you an idea of the amount of bulk I had.

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KinderSwag (Exeggutor) (F) @ Sitrus Berry

Trait: Harvest

EVs: 244 HP / 28 Def / 236 SDef

Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)

- Power Swap

- Leaf Storm

- Protect

- Psyshock

The star player of this team, Exeggutor is one of the biggest threats I have ever seen. For those of you who don't understand how he works, his strength lies in his ability: Harvest. Harvest is an ability which, at the end of every turn, has a 50% chance to return the Berry you are holding if you have already used it (this becomes a 100% chance in the Sun). This gives Exeggutor a potentially unlimited amount of Sitrus Berries. Not so bad right? But it's an Exeggutor, so it should be easy to OHKO, right? Except not. With enough Defense to take a STAB Super Effective Crunch from max Attack Adamant Tyranitar and enough Special Defense to take a Timid Latios Dragon Gem Draco Meteor, Exeggutor is a monstrous tank.

Alright, so it has good bulk  and can heal HP, but it's still not so bad right? All you need to do is fight it like you'd fight a Gym Leader's Pokémon -- get it into the upper green HP range and KO from there, right? Wrong! Because Exeggutor's moves are sure to give you trouble. With no Special Attack EVs, Exeggutor still OHKO's almost every Politoed and Rotom-W out there with the sheer power of Leaf Storm. Exeggutor has the same base Special Attack stat as Thundurus or Zapdos, and with 140 Base Power STAB Leaf Storm can tear holes in anything it hits.

Alright, so its got great bulk unlimited recovery, AND good offensive presence, but this still isn't so bad, you can still KO it once it gets into the high green range. Except that's where Exeggutor's last move comes in. Power Swap is a move that switches all changes to your Special Attack and your Attack stat. Namely, if Leaf Storm drops your Special Attack to -2, you can immediately go and pass that to a foe who was trying to set up. Exeggutor can bounce Intimidates back as well as stealing Calm Mind, Swords Dance, and other setup moves. Power Swap also works through Substitute, which is huge in a Worlds metagame. With Power Swap lowering the foe's Special Attack and my own Intimidate lowering physical Attack, Exeggutor was a tank who won me nearly every game I brought him to, as well as both my Top 8 Matches and my final match of Top 4. I encourage anyone who doubts Exeggutor to try him out, you will not be disappointed. Exeggutor was a hidden gem that was the star player of this team, and his sheer bulk and team support coupled with the fact that most of my opponents did not know how to fight him gave me a huge advantage. He was great for switching, able to come into almost any attack and sponge the damage and heal it off immediately.

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Wolfe Pack (Terrakion) @ Choice Band

Trait: Justified

EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd

Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)

- Close Combat

- Rock Slide

- Quick Attack

- X-Scissor

The members on this team are listed in the order that they we're added to the team. Terrakion was the last member and was the glue that held this team together. If you look at the other members of this team, the most attacking power I ran was 76 Special Attack EVs with the other four having either no investment in offense or very little. Terrakion was a sheer powerhouse who provided offensive pressure on a defensive team. To give an idea of how strong Terrakion is, his Close Combat does around 85 percent to standard Metagross. He OHKOs so many threats to this team, especially standard bulky Thundurus who loses vs. Hitmontop/Terrakion lead or Thundurus/Terrakion. Terrakion was an addition who tied together all the weaknesses of this team and handles them. X-Scissor OHKOs Latios, provided you can control their Speed, while Rock Slide handles Thundurus. Quick Attack pays off late game when paralyzed, and Close Combat destroys everything it hits. I was going to opt for a slightly bulkier spread but in the end decided that on a Pokémon like this power and speed is all I needed.

A Few Notes

  • This is not a Sun team. Sunny Day was added as an afterthought. I do not have Charizard, I am not reliant on sun, and I did not intend to use Sun as much as I did. This team was not created with the intention of being a Sun team, nor was it finished with the intention of being a Sun team. It is not a Sun team.
  • I only ran Protect on two of my Pokémon. I believe that switching is a far more valuable move than Protecting, especially on a defensive team like this. It was not my intention to not run Protect on many of my Pokémon, but I never really found I needed it.
  • The entire team was RNG'd shiny in order to take advantage of the timer. Those extra three seconds came in handy when I won a game on one second. Keep in mind this was not a stall team nor was it designed to win only on timer. I was just aware that based on the way I play the game that games might end on timer with such a defensive team and I needed to keep that in mind while I was playing.
  • I'd like to apologize to Ray Rizzo for our finals match. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to play up to the level that the finals and a rival as strong as he is call for. When we meet again next year in Vancouver, I hope to give him the kind of match he deserves.
  • It is absolutely unfair to take full credit for this team. While I built it, I would not have come up with a majority of the ideas without help from my friends, whether it be through beating me over and over again or talking with me. I owe a majority of this team to the people who helped me create it. Please do not view me as some kind of genius just because my team was sub standard, without the help I received my team would have been as boring and ineffective as they come.

Synergy + Combinations

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Heatran+Cresselia

Heatran and Cresselia are the most obvious combination with excellent synergy on this team. Heatran traditionally has three weaknesses: Ground, Water, and Fighting. This team was created with the intention of eliminating Heatran's weakness to Ground-type attacks, so after a Skill Swapped Levitate Heatran has two remaining weaknesses. Except, when Cresselia uses Sunny Day, Heatran's weakness to Water-type attacks is virtually removed until Sun runs out or the weather is changed. With only one remaining weakness and an unreal amount of resistances coupled with Substitute and a remarkable amount of attacking power in sunlight, Heatran and Cresselia can tear through unprepared teams who rely on only Water- and Ground-type attacks to defeat Heatran.

However, Heatran has a few flaws. His one remaining weakness, Fighting, is omnipresent thanks to the popularity of Fighting Gem Hitmontop. Fortunately, between Heatran's Chople Berry and Heatran's Defense and Speed investment, designed to out speed most Hitmontop and KO first or deal heavy damage coupled with a strong attack from the partner and still live a Fighting Gem Close Combat AFTER a Substitute, Fighting-types generally don't last long when the user of this team is playing to eliminate them. Cresselia's Psychic typing aids Heatran in eliminating pesky Hitmontop, further adding to the strong synergy between the two. The only remaining flaw in Heatran is its unfortunately low speed, especially versus offensive teams that invest heavily in Speed and the attacking stats. However, thanks to Cresselia's last move, Icy Wind, and its ability to lower the Speed of both of the foes at once, Heatran is able to continually move first thanks to Cresselia's remarkable support. After an Icy Wind, Cresselia will move before opposing Garchomp and Skill Swap levitate onto Heatran before Garchomp can Earthquake the little fire doggy.

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Heatran+Thundurus

On paper, Thundurus and Heatran do not seem to support each other especially well in their typing or bulk, but in practice I found quite the opposite to be true. In testing Heatran, I found that he performed most effectively when he was able to move before the opponent, bluffing an attack versus a low HP foe, forcing a switch, and setting up a free Substitute instead. However, as mentioned previously, Heatran's speed is relatively average and although with enough investment he is able to get a jump on the slower, bulkier side of the metagame, he can struggle with hyper offensive teams and the fast, consistent damage they are able to deal. That's where Thundurus comes into play. By this point everyone is aware of what bulky Thundurus is, how it works, and how annoying it is to fight against, however most Thundurus that I have fought against seem to Paralyze not for Speed control but for the 1/4 chance of immobilization. On this team, Paralysis plays a different role. Thanks to Thundurus' Prankster ability, his Thunder Waves receive +1 priority. This means that, in almost all situations, Thunder Wave will be the first attack used in its Speed bracket. With Thundurus slowing down its opponents, Heatran can find ample time to set up a Substitute while your opponent struggles to prevent Thundurus from spreading Paralysis around their whole team.

I mentioned previously how most people should know how much of a pain bulky Thundurus is to fight, and I speak from experience. While slowing down the opposing team is incredibly useful, it is utterly pointless if my entire team is paralyzed in return. Which is precisely why this Thundurus supports Heatran and the rest of the team so well. With enough investment to outspeed nearly every opposing bulky Thundurus and Taunt to stop enemy Thunder Waves, Thundurus allows me to remain on the offensive while retaining the bulk I require. Lastly, due to Thundurus' item, Electric Gem, its first Thunderbolt will do solid damage to anything it connects with. When coupled with Heatran's high Special Attack stat and STAB Heat Waves, many threats are KO'd before they realize what has happened. Heatran and Thundurus provide offensive power to a defensive team and allow me to continually keep pressure on my opponent.

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Hitmontop+Everyone

What? What kind of synergy analysis is this? In writing a section on Hitmontop, I realized that he literally supports every other member of this team very well. As I mentioned earlier, I used Hitmontop primarily for his Intimidate ability and Fake Out. I also mentioned that in order for this team to be used effectively, switching is absolutely crucial. Hitmontop played a very unique role on this team as he allowed me to bring in the Pokémon I needed to at the correct times through Fake Out and Intimidate. Hitmontop had a crucial resistance to Rock-type attacks and helped the rest of the team deal with Tyranitar and other pesky Rock-types. Hitmontop was able to help Heatran's Substitutes live through physical attacks such as Rock Slide without breaking, which proved to be extremely valuable several times throughout the tournament. He was also able to help Thundurus and Terrakion (who were frail on the physical side) survive longer and deal heavy damage to the opposing team. Intimidate was also able to be Skill Swapped around and reset every time. There were several times where I would switch in Hitmontop and Skill Swap the same turn, automatically dropping my opponents to -2. In building this team I invested primarily in the special defensive side when creating my EV spreads, nearly every Pokémon (including Hitmontop himself) had higher Special Defense than Defense, however this was never an issue since I was able to switch around my bulky Hitmontop with such ease.

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Hitmontop+Terrakion

The Hitmontop/Terrakion duo was a favorite of mine when I wanted to apply offensive pressure and remove threats early on. Due to Terrakion's decline in popularity since 2011, I felt a large number of people were not as solid on their damage calculations, thus it would not be immediately apparent that I was Choice Banded. Hitmontop/Terrakion was an especially solid lead for eliminating one of my biggest threats: opposing Thundurus. I enjoyed using this lead as a quick way to remove opposing Thundurus from the game early on, double targeting with Fake Out and Rock Slide for an easy KO. This strategy was risky, though, as if the partner decided to attack instead of Protecting or flinching, I could lose my Terrakion. Fortunately, Hitmontop's Fake Out and the fear of being 2HKO'd by Terrakion forced my opponent into Protecting. Intimidate also helped support Terrakion survive a hit so I could conserve Terrakion for late game clean up.

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Thundurus+Terrakion

Haven't I seen this somewhere before? This combo was a popular lead in 2011, and the modifications made to their sets allow it to work just as well in 2012. This particular lead was designed to eliminate bulky Thundurus as quickly as possible. I would use my own Thundurus to Taunt before the foe could paralyze my Terrakion and follow up with a Rock Slide KO. While this lead was primarily used to deal with Thundurus, it had other uses as well. Thundurus was the second fastest Pokémon on my team next to Terrakion, and if it could hit for Super eEfective damage, it could often times KO. This pair provided early damage to a foe that they often times could not recover from. Thundurus/Terrakion was also a very effective combo to get luck on my side. If I chose to target a Pokémon with both Rock Slide and Thunder Wave, its odds to attack that turn would not be very high.

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Hitmontop+Heatran+Exeggutor

While I mentioned earlier that Hitmontop supported every member of the team, I feel he should be mentioned again here. When I decided to use Exeggutor in a battle, I typically brought him in the back with the goal of eliminating his threats and allowing him to sweep late game. Hitmontop and Heatran were essential in performing that role. Exeggutor's weaknesses to Fire, Bug, Ice, Poison, Flying, Ghost, and Dark are all resisted by Heatran, while Hitmontop resists Poison, Bug, and Dark. With Heatran eliminating the threats to Exeggutor and Hitmontop providing crucial Intimidate and Fake Out support, foes frequently lost their only ways to check Exeggutor and not realize it until it is too late. On the flip side, Exeggutor resists all of Heatran's weaknesses and can easily switch into any threatening attack and sponge the damage. Between Heatran, Exeggutor, and Hitmontop every single type is resisted at least once, and these three form the core of my defensive oriented team.

Moral of the Story

If there is one thing I hope you will take away from this, it is that you do not need to run standard to do well. Often times having a creative ace in the hole allowed me to fight my way out of losing situations. While I wasn't able to give my best in the finals versus Ray, I'm still proud of the team and what I was able to accomplish. If those matches were your only introduction to this team, I advise you to take another look at the team as those matches were something of an anomaly. Overall, it performed exceptionally well in Swiss and in top cut, and I hope to have another shot at the title next year in Vancouver. I would like to thank everyone who supported me, from everyone who spent their time RNG'ing my mons just because I wanted them shiny, to the people who battled and beat me countless times and forced me to build a team that could actually work and everyone who supported me throughout the whole process, you know who you are. Without your support, I never could have gotten as far as I did.


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      Krookodile is a weird Pokémon. It counters many varieties of Pokémon with its high Attack and Speed, but its capabilities lie also in weakening the likes of Kyogre, Salamence, etc. with Snarl. Its defenses are still far too thin for it really to be called a "support Pokémon", and its role is mainly to pressure Primals, but there are times when its role is not to attack, but to defend.
      Why did I add it? I needed a secondary check to P-Don, but my team was also relatively weak to Trick Room. Krookodile can take care of both with the added ability to weaken Kyogre. Intimidate is also an excellent Ability for my team, and it can back up Krookodile's paper-thin defense.
      What is it weak to? Max Speed Xerneas, which can set up a Geomancy before I can hit it, can easily take down Krookodile. Also, most attacks on the special side, even Icy Wind, can deal lots of damage.
      Also, I can't stress this enough: Don't let Krookodile get KO'd too early. It might look useless but keeping it alive really helps in the endgame, as seen in this replay:
      http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/vgc2016-356239492

      Thundurus @ Expert Belt
      Ability: Prankster
      EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
      Timid Nature
      -Thunderbolt
      -Taunt
      -Hidden Power Ice
      -Protect
      People who see Thundurus usually suspect it of being the far more common support set with Thunder Wave. A coverage set like this works great because it commonly whacks Dragons around with HP Ice, and Taunt just stops stuff trying to set up. Thunderbolt gets great damage on Kyogre because of all the SpA investment. 
      Why did I add it? Breloom is great at hitting Kyogre for lots of damage  (each Bullet Seed does 30-40% damage) but the problem is that it's pretty slow. I wanted something that could beat Kyogre as well as use Ice coverage to its advantage.
      What is it weak to? This Thundurus is pretty frail tbh, so lots of hits you might have thought support Thundurus could take (like Kyogre's Origin Pulse) can OHKO. It doesn't like priority either.

      Mawile @ Mawilite
      Ability: Intimidate --> Huge Power
      EVs: 172 HP / 252 Atk / 84 Spe
      Adamant Nature
      -Iron Head
      -Sucker Punch
      -Swords Dance
      -Protect
      The VGC 2016 monster of choice. Really its abilities say it all, it Intimidates the opposition with its Huge Power. It Intimidates them so much sometimes that it can set up a Swords Dance while they're using Protect! I EV'd it to outspeed Primals and XY cover legendaries at +2 (this can mean with a Tailwind or vs. a paralyzed Xerneas at +2). Really Groudon is the only thing that can take on this mon, nothing else can take a hit from it, except maybe Landorus-T. 
      Why did I add it? Long story short, I needed a mega. I tried Salamence but it kept dying to Kyogre and stuff until I found Mawile. It has the ability to apply massive pressure on the opponent, because Huge Power.
      What is it weak to? Mainly Groudon, because everything else takes a bunch from Sucker Punch. (Hey, that rhymes!) Groudon can just shrug it off and use some Fire move.

      Ho-Oh @ Sitrus Berry
      Ability: Pressure
      EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpD / 4 Spe
      Careful Nature
      -Brave Bird
      -Sacred Fire
      -Protect
      -Tailwind
      My other restricted Pokémon is great at placing control of the battle in my hands. First of all, Ho-Oh can eat special attacks to no end, thanks to the given investment. Secondly, Tailwind support helps each of my Pokémon become a threat in its own right. Here's how each team member benefits from this support:
      -Zygarde doesn't need to paralyze its foes to flinch them with Rock Slide. It also has an effective 230 speed Glare.
      -Breloom can outspeed pretty much anything and play fun mind games with Spore, Protect and its attacks.
      -Krookodile, being built to outspeed threats, improves more than you'd think. Although it doesn't outspeed many more relevant threats with the aid of Tailwind, it no longer has to outpredict faster threats using Protect, and it's free to fire off Knock Offs or EQs.
      -Thundurus can outspeed Mega Mence and Rayquaza now, OHKO'ing Mence and 2HKO'ing Rayquaza. It also deals with ScarfOgre well.
      -Mawile benefits the most from Tailwind because it can outspeed both primals and the XY cover legendaries, OHKO'ing all of them (bar Groudon). With speed to go with its massive power, Mega Mawile becomes a force to be reckoned with. 
      Why did I add it? I'm not really sure, but it works pretty well.
      What is it weak to? You know this by now. Rock Slide is pretty commonplace (although Ho-Oh isn't, for some reason) and strong physical hits can also deal lots of damage.
      Leads / Combinations
      Some of my Pokémon work especially well together. Each can eliminate the other's weaknesses to a certain extent. Therefore, I often lead with them.
       "Thundile": This pair is probably my best. It can take on both primals (even at the same time). Also, most opposing Smeargle stand no chance against Taunt and/or Earthquake. Thundurus also has a helpful immunity to EQ, and can deal heavy damage to enemies like Landorus-T, Salamence, Rayquaza, etc. that Krookodile can't deal much damage to due to Intimidate. Krookodile, in return, supports Thundurus' weaker Defense with its own Intimidate. This core, however, has only one Taunt, which can be a problem at times.
      "Thundergarde": It beats the Big 6. The vast majority of Smeargle will go for the Fake Out on Thundurus, while Zygarde sets up. On the next turn, I usually end up Taunting Smeargle or phazing it out, then abusing Rock Slide. Luckily for me, Talonflame is a common support Pokémon seen with Xerneas, so I can catch it on the switch more often than not. Lead Salamences don't stand a chance against HP Ice, and Talonflame doesn't like eating Thunderbolts. The match up vs. Kanga is a bit iffy but I can be reasonably sure it won't Fake Out Zygarde. Still, though, let me reiterate that first statement.
      It beats the Big 6.
      It beats the Big 6.
       "Double Status": Each of these Pokémon has a status inflicting move. While Zygarde can slow down an opponent for the rest of the match, Breloom momentarily makes them unable to move. Similarly, Zygarde's strength lies in taking hits while Breloom's specialty is to dish them out. Although it doesn't offer spectacular offensive or defensive coverage, this duo provides a good amount of utility for my other two Pokémon.
       "Bird Spam": While each of these Pokémon has trouble dealing with Groudon and Smeargle, they handle most other threats pretty well. Ho-Oh flat out stops Xerneas (unless it has Thunderbolt, which I saw once; I'm still not sure what they were thinking of hitting besides Kyogre) and Xerneas might not mind having its Attack dropped from a Sacred Fire burn, but the continual damage can be very helpful, as Thundurus can use Protect the next turn to stall it out. Tailwind from Ho-Oh also helps Thundurus beat faster Rock Slide users like Scarf Landorus-T. Thundurus can beat basically all Rock Slide users with Hidden Power Ice (except the aforementioned Groudon).
       "Chaos": 'Use Glare on the thing that can KO Mawile while it uses Protect, then KO it back.' That's how I'm supposed to play this style, but I tend to be a bit more reckless. Now about this duo: As I mentioned before, if Mawile is faster, it pretty much has nothing to fear bar Groudon. Zygarde's longevity is also extended with Mawile's Intimidate, making it even more prepared to take down Groudon. (Seriously, it looks designed for exactly that.) Land's Wrath also doesn't hit Mawile, which is a plus.
      Things I don't like dealing with aka threatlist
      -Gravity Spam: If you want to annoy me you don't have to do much more than use Gravity. By no means does it outright break my team, but dealing with Gravity Precipice Blades and Blizzard (does it ever miss?) can be difficult to deal with.
      -Icy Wind: I hate Icy Wind. It deals too much damage (4 team members are weak to it) and the Speed drop can really be annoying. Luckily for me Gengar (the usual suspect) is pretty frail, but it often carries a Sash. Annoyingness level = over 9000.
      -ScarfOgre: Breloom gets brought to its Sash by this thing. Not good. The only thing I can do is hope Ho-Oh lives through the hit (man, Ho-Oh is a beast!) and retaliate.
      -Mewtwo: Mewtwo is fairly uncommon but is bad news. I usually need Krookodile and Ho-Oh to deal with it. Mewtwo is really fast for some reason, so Krookodile needs to use Protect on turn 1 while Ho-Oh throws a Tailwind. Krookodile and Ho-Oh is a less-than-ideal strategy because of bad offensive synergy (you can't hit Dragons) so it sort of restricts my flexibility.
      Replays: I don't have a lot of them
      Tailwind in general
      http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/vgc2016-351170526
      Thundergarde
      http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/vgc2016-359762973
      http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/vgc2016-359764656
      Thundile
      http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/vgc2016-349490390
      http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/vgc2016-353871302
      Double Status
      http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/vgc2016-347326031
      Chaos
      http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/vgc2016-353741567
      Thanks for reading my team! I hope you enjoyed it  Please let me know if you have any comments on either the quality of the team or that of the RMT as well, as I want to improve both. Have a nice day!
    • A New Sun Shines: A Chlorophyll Whimsicott Team
      By Lily
      Hello, all! Recently I came up with this team that I'm about to show you. I'm wanting to bring it to a PC that I have in a few days. I've been really liking it, but it obviously has its issues. Aside from the glaringly obvious, I'll tell you the issues I have with it at the end. Without further ado, the first member of the team:

      Mega Heatran (Groudon-Primal) @ Red Orb  
      Ability: Desolate Land  
      Level: 50  
      EVs: 4 HP / 244 Atk / 4 Def / 4 SpD / 252 Spe  
      Jolly Nature  
      - Precipice Blades  
      - Rock Tomb  
      - Swords Dance  
      - Protect
      A pretty standard Jolly Groudon set. I decided to run Rock Tomb over Rock Slide as it provides guaranteed Speed control, whereas Stone Edge has a high miss rate and Rock Slide has a low flinch rate, which I'd rather not rely on. Swords Dance is there over a Fire-type move as I figured +2 Precipice Blades would take care of the threats that Fire Punch would take care of just fine (mainly Ferrothorn and Scizor).
      The EV spread is 4/244/4/0/4/252 instead of 4/252/252 as Groudon's bulk is decent enough to justify investing a few more points into it. I'm running Jolly avoid being outsped by other Groudon, as since this Groudon has very little bulk, it's easily OHKOd by opposing Precipice Blades.
      Groudon is one of the most powerful and the most overused Pokemon in the meta, and for good reason. It has great physical bulk and massive physical Attack, allowing it to plow through entire teams, especially when set up with Swords Dance, although aid is usually provided by Liepard or Whimsicott when setting up. Groudon is threatened mainly by other Groudon, Salamence, Yveltal, and Kyogre (the last of which this team struggles to deal with at times). Overall, I think Groudon is a very solid offensive threat and definitely the most powerful Pokemon on this team.

      New Meta (Whimsicott) (F) @ Life Orb  
      Ability: Chlorophyll  
      Level: 50  
      EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe  
      Timid Nature  
      IVs: 0 Atk  
      - Grass Knot  
      - Moonblast  
      - Protect  
      - Encore
      A surprisingly threatening offensive Pokemon, Whimsicott is one of my favorite Pokemon and I wanted to try something new with it. I heard that Life Orb Whimsicott was used by at least a few people in the Japan Cup, so I wanted to try it for myself. I gave it the Chlorophyll ability and paired it with Groudon and I was amazed at how well it did, even without a Focus Sash. Although obviously extremely frail, Chlorophyll helps Whimsicott outspeed everything in the meta that isn't boosted by Tailwind, including +2 252+ Speed Timid Xerneas, allowing me to Encore it into Geomancy even without Prankster.
      The moveset is pretty different than the norm as well, of course. Moonblast and Grass Knot are great STAB choices and, when boosted by Life Orb, are able to deal big damage to its main partner's (Groudon) biggest threats, including Primal Kyogre, Primal Groudon, Mega Rayquaza, Mega Salamence, and Yveltal.
      Relevant calcs:
      252 SpA Life Orb Whimsicott Grass Knot (120 BP) vs. 140 HP / 0 SpD Primal Kyogre: 127-151 (65.8 - 78.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
      252 SpA Life Orb Whimsicott Grass Knot (120 BP) vs. 4 HP / 4 SpD Primal Groudon: 103-122 (58.5 - 69.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO 252 SpA Life Orb Whimsicott Moonblast vs. 4 HP / 4 SpD Mega Rayquaza: 151-179 (83.4 - 98.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
      252 SpA Life Orb Whimsicott Moonblast vs. 4 HP / 4 SpD Mega Salamence: 164-195 (95.9 - 114%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO
      252 SpA Life Orb Whimsicott Moonblast vs. 244 HP / 0 SpD Yveltal: 151-182 (65 - 78.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
      As I said before, Whimsicott is one of my favorite Pokemon. I thought the idea of a Life Orb Whimsicott sounded extremely far-fetched at first, but I decided to give it a try and I wasn't disappointed. I chose Chlorophyll over Prankster to ensure I outspeed everything. With that speed, I'm not only able to deal damage, but I'm also able to Encore Xerneas into Geomancy, Kangaskhan/Smeargle/Weavile/Raichu into Fake Out while Groudon Swords Dances and picks up the OHKO.

      Bacon Bird (Yveltal) @ Black Glasses  
      Ability: Dark Aura  
      Level: 50  
      Shiny: Yes  
      EVs: 244 HP / 28 Def / 4 SpA / 36 SpD / 196 Spe  
      Timid Nature  
      - Snarl  
      - Sucker Punch  
      - Protect  
      - Foul Play
      Pyritie here on NB inspired me to try Yveltal. I saw his set that he posted and thought it looked solid, so I tried it out myself and fell in love. (See his post here for relevant calcs.) I think Yveltal is a really solid Pokemon in this format, able to counter (or at least damage) many big threats such as Groudon, Landorus-T, Salamence, Rayquaza, Kangaskhan, and even Kyogre, just to name a few.
      I tried Tailwind for a while, but eventually settled on using the same moveset that was provided in the post. I feel that it covers a lot of bases. Snarl is a spread attack that gets a Dark Aura and Black Glasses boost, so it deals considerable damage and also drops the target's special attack stat. Sucker Punch is great priority move and the most powerful one, and it's able to pick up some necessary KOs on big threats. Foul Play is the main offensive move on this set and can dish out massive damage to the Pokemon listed above.
      In addition to being pretty solid on its own, Yveltal makes a great partner for Primal Groudon, as it basically hard-counters opposing Primal Groudon and is able to threaten and chip away at a lot of Pokemon that could potentially cause trouble for Groudon.

      Guinevere (Liepard) (F) @ Focus Sash  
      Ability: Prankster  
      Level: 50  
      EVs: 4 HP / 252 Def / 252 Spe  
      Timid Nature  
      - Foul Play  
      - Taunt  
      - Fake Out  
      - Swagger
      Liepard is an interesting Pokemon this format. It's not as fast as other Prankster users like Thundurus and Whimsicott (or 252 +Speed Meowstic, but I don't think anyone uses that), but it gets Fake Out and STAB- and Dark Aura-boosted Foul Play, (Sableye does too, but it's much slower and I'd rather have Speed on this team) which is why I chose it over the Pokemon mentioned previously.
      I first got the idea to use Liepard after seeing peckspec's team here. I used his standard 4/252/252 spread and movset and changed out Thunder Wave for Swagger, as I already had Thundurus for good speed control.
      Focus Sash is so it can survive powerful moves from many Pokemon. Foul Play is used for the same reason on Liepard as it is on Yveltal. Taunt is a great way to stop non-Mental-Herb Smeargle from spamming Dark Void as well as Thundurus, Whimsicott, and opposing Liepard. Fake Out support is great and can prevent crucial KOs on my Pokemon by not letting the opponent attack (this is especially useful when Groudon is trying to set up Swords Dance). Finally, Swagger is a great move as it not only gives the opponent a 50% chance to damage themselves, but it also doubles the damage done with Foul Play, so Liepard can priority Swagger and Black Glasses Yveltal can use Foul Play and pick up OHKOs on even Kyogre.
      +2 0 Atk Dark Aura Yveltal Foul Play vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Primal Kyogre: 180-213 (102.8 - 121.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO

      Tarboosh (Thundurus) @ Sitrus Berry  
      Ability: Prankster  
      Level: 50  
      EVs: 52 HP / 4 Def / 4 SpA / 196 SpD / 252 Spe  
      Timid Nature 
      - Thunderbolt  
      - Swagger  
      - Taunt  
      - Thunder Wave
      First off, if you're wondering what a Tarboosh is, it's a sort of fez. Because Thundurus wears a hat sort of thing. Kind of.
      Thundurus is as good as, if not better than, it has been in the past. It's still doing what it's always been good at: paralyzing, confusing, and causing people to lose their sanity. It's a great support option for multiple reasons, as it gets access to Taunt, Thunder Wave, Swagger, even Embargo, Role Play, and Electroweb. I chose it because I needed both a second Taunter and because I felt another Swagger user would better help out Yveltal. The EV spread was taken from Se Jun Park's Generation Showdown team (which I was surprised is not mentioned in the sample teams post: read it here), I just switched around the HP and the Speed and went with Timid over Calm because I felt like max Speed was more necessary this format than it has been in the past. I'm not sure what all of the relevant calcs were, or if he just wanted a specially-bulky Thundurus, but it has a decent chance to survive quite a few attacks.
      Relevant calcs:
      252+ SpA Primal Kyogre Origin Pulse vs. 52 HP / 196 SpD Thundurus in Heavy Rain: 142-168 (88.1 - 104.3%) -- 25% chance to OHKO
      252+ SpA Primal Kyogre Ice Beam vs. 52 HP / 196 SpD Thundurus: 138-164 (85.7 - 101.8%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO
      +2 252 SpA Fairy Aura Xerneas Dazzling Gleam vs. 52 HP / 196 SpD Thundurus: 130-154 (80.7 - 95.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
      The moveset is the standard set that almost everyone uses. Thunderbolt is used as the offensive option because it has good base damage, STAB, and a slight chance to paralyze. Swagger's there for the same reason Liepard has it. It has Taunt as a backup or substitute for Liepard. Thunder Wave is a great form of speed control and allows my other Pokemon to outspeed big threats such as +2 Xerneas, Mega Rayquaza, Mega Salamence, and max speed Primal Kyogre, among many other things.
      I think Thundurus is a great choice for a supporting 'mon, as it provides fast, reliable speed control, it can Taunt, Swagger, and take out Flying-types with Thunderbolt due to its good base special attack stat.

      Saladmenace (Salamence-Mega) (F) @ Salamencite  
      Ability: Intimidate  
      Level: 50  
      Shiny: Yes  
      EVs: 4 HP / 4 Atk / 4 Def / 244 SpA / 252 Spe  
      Naive Nature  
      - Hyper Voice  
      - Double-Edge  
      - Protect  
      - Tailwind
      Mega Salamence is one of the most prominent threats in the meta. It's fast, it's powerful, and most of all, it's really cool-looking. (That's the most important part, right?)
      Besides Mawile, Salamence is my favorite mega evolution in the game. It's got solid stats all around and has access to a plethory of offensive and even a few support options. The EV spread is 4/4/4/244/252 because of the same reason Groudon's is. I went with a more specially-biased variant as Hyper Voice is a spread move and it will deal less damage to each opponent in exchange for targeting both of them, so I wanted it to be as powerful as possible, whereas Double-Edge is only single-target and deals great damage even with just 4 attack EVs. In addition to being a powerhouse, my Salamence also has Tailwind to support its team. Tailwind on Salamence is amazing as most people's first instinct typically isn't to Taunt a mega Salamence (although I feel like that will become more common soon), so I can set it up relatively safely, especially with Fake Out support from Liepard or Swagger from either Liepard or Thundurus.
      Salamence is a great option for a mega as it counters two of the four main restricted legendaries: Groudon and Rayquaza. It also can do a lot of damage to most other things in the meta.
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      Alright! Now that the team is done, I'll quickly list what I'm having problems with and share a few battle videos.
       
      Trick Room  The main problem I have, which you probably noticed, is with Trick Room. Everything on my team bar Yveltal has max speed and a +speed nature. It works out well overall, and I can outplay TR if it gets set up, but I'd rather have a much more reliable way of controlling it if it gets set up. The problem is, I don't know who to replace as I feel that they all play a pretty important role in the team.
      Primal Kyogre Primal Kyogre has been a problem occasionally. I feel like a Grass-type might be able to remedy this, but I'm not sure who to choose.
      Xerneas Despite having Primal Groudon, Xerneas is a pretty big weakness to my team if Whimsicott gets knocked out before I can Encore it.
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      Thanks for reading if you made it this far. This is my first RMT on Nugget Bridge, so I hope it was acceptable. I'd appreciate any and all help and feedback. Thank you!
       
      EDIT: Sorry that some of the sprites are so big! I don't know how to fix that
    • To Room or Not to Room
      By Deyul
      That is the decision.
      Hello everyone. This is my first time truly trying to go hardcore with a competitive team since Nationals of 2013. I've been following the top Pokemon and strategies in the current meta and I finally found a team that I liked for myself. I've been practicing with it for a while now and getting used to everything.
      Without further ado, here is my team:

      Smeargle @ Focus Sash  
      Ability: Moody  
      EVs: 252 Def / 4 SpD / 252 Spe  
      Timid Nature  
      IVs: 0 Atk  
      - Dark Void  
      - Follow Me  
      - Wide Guard  
      - King's Shield  
      I already knew that Smeargle was super useful in this meta, but using it myself has taught me that even more. It has the staple moveset that you would see, however I picked King's Shield over Spiky Shield. The reason for this is simply because of Kangaskhan and Talonflame. (More so the former) If Kang chooses to FO into Smeargle - which they usually do - the attack drop could end up being a bigger help than damage, and the same goes for if a Talonflame tries to pick off Smeargle with Brave Bird or otherwise.
      Smeargle seems to be known for its usefulness with Dark Void. However, I've found myself using Follow Me and Wide Guard more with this team. Follow Me keeps Smeargle's partners from taking too much damage or even fainting and becomes extra useful if it has gained an evasion boost. Wide Guard helps block off a lot of attacks from the Primals mainly, such as Precipice or Origin. Kinda weird that a lot of people don't seem to expect it. In the case that I am using Dark Void the speed EVs can be helpful for getting mine off before an opposing Smeargle's. Thankfully Smeargle usually either gets a speed drop or is just not as speedy in general, and doesn't get super affected by Trick Room.

      Cresselia @ Sitrus Berry  
      Ability: Levitate  
      EVs: 4 HP / 252 Def / 252 SpD  
      Bold Nature  
      IVs: 0 Atk / 0 Spe  
      - Ice Beam  
      - Helping Hand  
      - Magic Coat  
      - Trick Room
      Cresslia is basically the backbone of this team. Decide to go with Ferrothorn and Groudon? Trick Room's here to help them get that damage out first, and some Helping Hands to boost their damage. Helping Hand of course also helps out with Kangaskhan and Kyurem's damage as well, and Trick Room can be used to possibly counter another team's TR. Magic Coat is great for bouncing back pesky taunts, or maybe even a Dark Void if I really need to. Ice Beam is there just in case Cresselia does get taunted.... or if it can finish off another Pokemon on its own and a teammate doesn't need help at the moment.
      The bulk + Sitrus Berry helps keep it alive, which it needs to be in order to be any bit of useful. However, people seem to be going for attackers more in this meta than the support mons.

      Kangaskhan @ Kangaskhanite  
      Ability: Scrappy  
      EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe  
      Adamant Nature  
      - Fake Out  
      - Return  
      - Power-Up Punch  
      - Sucker Punch  
      Ah yes. The most over used mega, and for good reason. I've chosen Return over Double-Edge mainly for the survivability and the fact that if Return doesn't kill the target a Sucker Punch most likely will. Power-Up Punch over Low Kick? What am I thinking?! Simply: Smeargle. Two hits from a P-Up Punch is enough to kill one that doesn't have a defense boost, and it gives +2 Atk in the process. I also use it on opposing Kangs at times, and then Sucker Punch them into fainting.
      I run Kangaskhan as a lead more often than just having it in the back, at about a 99% rate honestly. This is mainly because Fake Out on other people's leads tends to be a helpful choice. That is, unless they have Quick Guard or one of the shields..... or just double protect.
      (I couldn't seem to get the Kyurem-White art to work?)
      Kyurem-White @ Life Orb  
      Ability: Turboblaze  
      EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe  
      Timid Nature  
      IVs: 0 Atk  
      - Ice Beam  
      - Dragon Pulse
      - Fusion Flare  
      - Earth Power  
      Kyurem is my main power house in a non-Trick Room setting. Most Primal Groudons can't handle a single Earth Power thanks to Life Orb, and if they can't they won't survive a second hit from much. Fusion Flare gets rid of Ferrothorn no problem. Dragon Pulse and Ice Beam are great tools for taking out anything else, especially if it would do neutral damage to a target that already has some of its HP missing. I also chose Dragon Pulse over Draco Meteor mainly because I was worried about the Sp. Atk drop affecting me when I needed to Earth Power a Groudon.
      Even in a Trick Room setting it can be useful. Usually its partner (most often Groudon) will take out anything threatening to it before it can be hit, and it can do damage to the remaining mon. Or.... it could just be a huge target to be taken down, leaving said partner alone to safely wreak havoc.

      Ferrothorn @ Leftovers  
      Ability: Iron Barbs  
      EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD  
      Sassy Nature  
      IVs: 0 Spe  
      - Leech Seed  
      - Gyro Ball  
      - Power Whip  
      - Protect  
      Ferrothorn felt like a bit of a staple in a Trick Room setting. Gyro ball gladly takes out targets like Xerneas and Kyurem-W no problem. Power Whip is the team's main way of dealing with Primal Kyogre, even if it's just scaring it into switching for a while. It also does decent enough damage to anything it may switch into.
      While I don't seem to be using it much, Leech Seed is there for healing and slowly picking off Pokemon. Pair this with Protect and Ferrothorn will happily heal up. Heck, it heals up nicely even with just Leftovers. Protect is also just useful for blocking attacks such as Eruption, but honestly there haven't been too many fire type moves used. At least... there haven't been in my experience.

      Groudon-Primal @ Red Orb  
      Ability: Desolate Land  
      EVs: 252 Atk / 128 Def / 128 SpD  
      Brave Nature  
      IVs: 0 Spe  
      - Precipice Blades  
      - Rock Slide  
      - Fire Punch  
      - Protect  
      And here we are, at possibly the #1 (or #2?) most used Pokemon this meta: Groudon. I've chosen a pretty basic set of moves, but it works. Precipice Blades decimates opposing Groudons and heavily damages opposing Pokemon. (Those who can be hit by it anyway) Rock Slide takes care of pesky levitaters and fliers such as Salamence, and flinches can be a god send in Trick Room. Wide Guard or Protect causing me problems, or just a single Pokemon left? Fire Punch is a hard hitting alternative to its other chance-to-miss moves. Protect, as always, is super handy for avoiding certain attacks while Groudon's partner removes the threat or even just to scout.
      I've chosen the attack and bulk EV set as I like to call it. 95% of the time I find that it takes out other Groudons, and either KO's or heavily damages other Pokemon as well. The bulk sadly can't protect it from water type attacks, but from full health it can survive a Precipice Blades from an opposing Groudon. (Most of the time, anyway.) While it can't always handle an Earth Power, it has once or twice. It all depends on the enemy's build.
      Now, for the Pokemon I'm having trouble with:

      These two are the only problems that I've run into more than a handful of times, and thankfully they aren't ALWAYS a problem, but it's definitely annoying.
      Certain Kangaskhans - mainly ones with Low Kick (so, the majority of Kangs) - tend to do heavy damage to practically all of my team. While I think a lot of this stems from the plays made in general it happens more often than I'd like.
      Landorus seems like something I'd be able to easily take care of. However, there are certain builds - namely the speedier ones - that can absolutely destroy some of my Pokemon. Superpower makes Kangaskhan and Kyurem cry, and usually when I have Kyurem against one.... the Landorus is speedier. Rock Slide also hurts (more for flinches) if I'm not using Trick Room.
       
      Well... that's basically everything about the team. If you have any questions, suggestions, or both please let me know and I'll be happy to respond.
    • Kyogre + Yveltal + Terracott
      By Osw
      Here is the team:
       

      Yveltal @ Weakness Policy  
      Ability: Dark Aura  
      Level: 50  
      EVs: 236 HP / 28 Def / 12 SpA / 36 SpD / 196 Spe  
      Timid Nature  
      IVs: 0 Atk  
      - Snarl  
      - Oblivion Wing  
      - Foul Play  
      - Protect  
      I borrowed this spread from someone here on nuggetbridge and i have to say that this is by far one best spreads ive seen. The evs let me survive:
      252+ SpA Turboblaze Kyurem-W Blizzard vs. 244 HP / 36 SpD Yveltal: 186-218 (80.1 - 93.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO 252 SpA Fairy Aura Xerneas Dazzling Gleam vs. 244 HP / 36 SpD Yveltal: 134-162 (57.7 - 69.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO 252 Atk Life Orb Mega Rayquaza Dragon Ascent vs. 244 HP / 28 Def Yveltal: 172-203 (74.1 - 87.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO 252 SpA Thundurus Thunderbolt vs. 244 HP / 36 SpD Yveltal: 146-174 (62.9 - 75%) -- guaranteed 2HKO and once Weakness policy activates Yveltal pack quite a punch. I chose Snarl because it allows it and its team to survive attacks such as Origin pulse, Ice beam, Eruption, etc, Oblivion wing because it lets yveltal get some health and is more effective with the boost of WP, Foul play to cause some serious damage to Primals and things as such and Protect. I chose Yveltal because most teams that dont have Xerneas on them are weak to dark type attacks and this allows me to take advantage of its ability.

      Kyogre-Primal @ Blue Orb  
      Ability: Primordial Sea  
      Level: 50  
      EVs: 204 HP / 188 Def / 76 SpA / 4 SpD / 36 Spe  
      Modest Nature  
      IVs: 0 Atk  
      - Origin Pulse  
      - Ice Beam  
      - Thunder  
      - Protect  
      I took this spread from a webpage, it allows me to: 
      252 Atk Life Orb Thundurus Wild Charge vs. 236 HP / 188 Def Primal Kyogre: 166-198 (80.9 - 96.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO 252 Atk Life Orb Mega Rayquaza Dragon Ascent vs. 236 HP / 188 Def Primal Kyogre: 153-181 (74.6 - 88.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO 252+ Atk Primal Groudon Precipice Blades vs. 236 HP / 188 Def Primal Kyogre: 96-114 (46.8 - 55.6%) -- 71.9% chance to 2HKO 252 Atk Parental Bond Mega Kangaskhan Double-Edge vs. 236 HP / 188 Def Primal Kyogre: 135-160 (65.8 - 78%) -- guaranteed 2HKO 252 Atk Aerilate Mega Salamence Double-Edge vs. 236 HP / 188 Def Primal Kyogre: 129-153 (62.9 - 74.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO I chose O pulse because i wanted an attack that could keep a constant damage output unlike Water spout (problem is, Groudon precipice blades land more than my O pulse), Ice beam for dragons and flying types, Thunder to beat opposing Kyogres. Kyogre gives some sort of Safe Heaven to Mawile from fire attacks. 

      Mawile @ Mawilite  
      Ability: Intimidate  
      EVs: 212 HP / 76 Atk / 4 Def / 108 SpD / 108 Spe  
      Adamant Nature  
      - Play Rough  
      - Iron Head /Fire fang
      - Sucker Punch  
      - Protect  
      This is a spread of my own, it survives this:
      +2 252 SpA Fairy Aura Xerneas Dazzling Gleam vs. 212 HP / 108 SpD Mega Mawile: 63-75 (41.4 - 49.3%) -- guaranteed 3HKO 252 SpA Mega Mewtwo Y Flamethrower vs. 212 HP / 108 SpD Mega Mawile: 130-154 (85.5 - 101.3%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO -1 252+ SpA Primal Kyogre Water Spout (150 BP) vs. 212 HP / 108 SpD Mega Mawile in Heavy Rain: 126-148 (82.8 - 97.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO -1 252+ SpA Primal Groudon Earth Power vs. 212 HP / 108 SpD Mega Mawile: 116-140 (76.3 - 92.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO The speed EV allow me to underspeed the primals and outspeed Xerneas under tailwind and KO it ( 76+ Atk Huge Power Mega Mawile Iron Head vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Xerneas: 234-276 (100.4 - 118.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO ). Play rough lets me KO dragons and other Yveltals, Sucker punch lets me abuse Dark aura, Protect and last is Iron head to hit fairies and the like, but im not sure if i should change it for Fire fang to hit ferrothorn.

      Whimsicott @ Focus Sash  
      Ability: Prankster  
      EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spe  
      Timid Nature  
      - Tailwind  
      - Beat Up  
      - Encore  
      - Swagger  
      The support member, Tailwind for speed control, Beat up to let Terrakion crush everything, Encore to keep pressure and Swagger to help Yveltal do more damage.

      Raichu @ Expert Belt  
      Ability: Lightning Rod  
      EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe  
      Jolly Nature  
      - Fake Out  
      - Volt Tackle  
      - Nuzzle  
      - Feint  
      Here to take thunderbolts for Yveltal and Kyogre and wall other electric types. Fake out for momentum, Volt tackle to hit Kogre and do more damag ewith Expert belt than Zap plate, Nuzzle for extra speed control and Feint to break protects. 

      Terrakion @ Lum Berry  
      Ability: Justified  
      EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe  
      Jolly Nature  
      - Close Combat  
      - Rock Slide  
      - Double Kick  
      - Protect  
      Terrakion here is to get rid of Smeargle and Kangaskhan and if possible, KO everything after beat up boost. Close combat to hit hard, Rock slide for STAB, Double kick to KO sashes smeargles, although im thinking of switching to Quick guard and Protect.
      COMBINATIONS

      Getting the Justified boost from beat up is almost like setting a weak Geomancy, which lets me sweep entire teams not prepared fro these 2.

      Dark aura abuse, yveltal softens some hits for Mawile and Mawile sucker punches things.
      /+
      Raichu covers either of these 2 from any electric type while the other deals damage.
      +
      Swagger + Foul play almost beat everything thats not named Xerneas.
      THREATS

      Mostly these 2, the main reason i hate VGC 2016 and the bane of my existence when im playing, Smeargle can put everything to sleep and can be either sashed or scarfed while letting Xerneas get a +2 boost on almost everything and then start sweeping even things that should resist it.
      Im tired of facing Big six teams just because of these 2. 

      Not as annoying as the 2 above  but the constant Precipice blades with supposed 85% accuracy are getting tiresome too.
      , etc.
      Most follow me users are easy to go around except when theyre with Xerneas
       
    • New VGC 2016 Team
      By Mr Game and Watch
      Just recently, I have updated my VGC 2016 team. After seeing some common threats, I have tried to change my team bit by bit to better deal with those threats. While I know countering every single threat is impossible, I have tried to cover as much ground as I can. Here are the Pokemon I am using as of the day this thread is posted:
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      Ferrothorn (F) @ Rocky Helmet  
      Ability: Iron Barbs  
      Level: 50  
      EVs: 252 HP / 76 Atk / 56 Def / 124 SpD  -> 252 HP / 220 Atk / 36 Def
      Relaxed Nature  
      IVs: 24 SpA / 0 Spe  
      - Gyro Ball  
      - Leech Seed  
      - Power Whip  
      - Protect  
      Ferrothorn, the first of my team alphabetically, is the main wall. Most times, I use it as a decoy to deal Iron Barbs + Rocky Helmet damage. (You should see how much damage it does to a Mega Kangaskhan!) It is also my anti-Xerneas Pokemon, as Gyro Ball can deal 75-100% damage to a full-HP Xerneas, depending on these conditions: 1) if Xerneas has used Geomancy; 2) if Tailwind on the opposing side is in effect; and/or 3) if Ferrothorn is paralyzed. Not to mention that Ferrothorn is an anti-Trick Room team, using Power Whip and Leech Seed (but mostly Leech Seed). As we know, it is super-weak against Fire-type moves. But, that's what Kyogre is for (more on that later). Oh yes, and I maximized Gyro Ball's PP this time around.
      UPDATE: Reset EVs as suggested by Lily.
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      Kangaskhan @ Kangaskhanite  
      Ability: Scrappy  
      Level: 50  
      EVs: 44 HP / 136 Atk / 76 Def / 252 Spe -> 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
      Jolly Nature  
      IVs: 27 SpA  
      - Fake Out  
      - Fire Punch
      - Return  
      - Sucker Punch  
      I recall that some guys have asked me about the specific EV spread -- in that why I'd use that rather than a 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe spread. The answer? Endurance. With some HP and Defense EVs applied, Kangaskhan has more bulk and can better endure most attacks, physical or special. I said "most" because there have been a few attacks that have taken down my Mega Kangaskhan, like Mega Rayquaza's Dragon Ascent (if memory serves; maybe it's because of the Life Orb). Besides the standard Fake Out and Return, it also knows Low Kick to deal damage against heavyweights, including other Mega Kangaskhan; and Sucker Punch, as an anti-Trick Room move, anti-paralysis move (in that it will still gain priority even when paralyzed) and a move used in attempt to deal damage to Pokemon that pose a greater threat.
      UPDATE: Set Kangaskhan's EVs to the standard 4/252/252 spread.
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      Kyogre @ Blue Orb  
      Ability: Drizzle  
      Level: 50  
      EVs: 204 HP / 60 Def / 84 SpA / 4 SpD / 156 Spe -> 20 HP / 76 Def / 156 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
      Timid Nature  
      - Ice Beam  
      - Protect  
      - Scald  
      - Water Spout  
      I still use Kyogre as one of my two legal ubers. But, I have replaced Origin Pulse with Water Spout, since this Kyogre is faster than the previous one I had. Generally, my Primal Kyogre is faster than Primal Groudon; but, I have run into a few that are faster. Now, I'm pondering on giving Kyogre more Speed EVs; I'm just not sure which EVs I would have to replace. It also knows Ice Beam to use on Groudon if worse comes to worse (because neutral damage is better than no damage at all, when Desolate Sun is in effect) and Scald, even used on opposing Ferrothorn in the hopes of burning. (Scald does have a 30% chance of burning, but I still sometimes try that and hope for the best.) Kyogre also gets support from Thundurus (which I will explain further along). And, it also offers support for Ferrothorn, giving it complete protection from Fire-type attacks. I'm aware of Precipice Blades, but at least it doesn't instantly KO Kyogre or Ferrothorn.
      UPDATE: Modified Kyogre's EVs to give it more Defense, Special Attack and Speed at the cost of HP.
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      Lugia @ Weakness Policy  
      Ability: Pressure  
      Level: 50  
      EVs: 232 HP / 252 Def / 20 SpA / 4 SpD  
      Bold Nature  
      IVs: 24 Atk  
      - Aeroblast  
      - Calm Mind -> Skill Swap
      - Psyshock -> Tailwind
      - Recover  
      Returning is Lugia, my second legal uber. I replaced Xerneas after realizing I never truly needed it, combined with the fact I kept seeing Steel-types on the opposing side, especially Ferrothorn. After losing to an opponent online, I found some potential in the strategy he used. So, not only did I take this idea but I also expanded on it. In addition to Lugia's Calm Mind, Thundurus' using Fling and throwing its Lansat Berry at Lugia would trigger Weakness Policy and raise the critical-hit ratio. This means Lugia will be able to score critical hits more often. Not all the time, but often.
      UPDATE: Replaced two of Lugia's moves. There may be some battles in which I may need to trade Abilities with Thundurus, or with opposing Pokemon, depending on the situation, which is why Skill Swap. And, of course, Lugia has the endurance to use Tailwind without getting KO'd in one turn.
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      Terrakion @ Choice Scarf -> Lum Berry
      Ability: Justified  
      Level: 50  
      EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe  
      Jolly Nature  
      IVs: 15 SpA  
      - Close Combat  
      - Earthquake  
      - Rock Slide  
      - Sacred Sword  -> Double Kick
      Another returner, Terrakion, plays a huge role in exploiting the Lansat Berry strategy. Its critical-hit ratio gets boosted when hit by Fling, and Justified is triggered, giving it more Attack power. After field-testing Terrakion with a Choice Scarf in a Battle Spot match, I found that Terrakion can outrun many Pokemon, even when the other side is supported by Tailwind. Close Combat is really for Pokemon that are likely to go down with one or two hits, while Sacred Sword is used when a Pokemon has put on plenty of buffs (especially Defense and evasiveness). Earthquake is an anti-Groudon move, though it doesn't do anywhere as much damage as Kyogre's Water-type moves. Rock Slide, if enhanced by Justified and the Lansat Berry can do intense critical damage!
      But, thinking back and after a streak of losses yesterday, I have just started to toy with the idea of giving Terrakion a Lum Berry in place of a Choice Scarf, in case it gets burned by Will-O-Wisp or paralyzed by Thunder Wave.
      UPDATE: Terrakion now holds a Lum Berry in case of burning or paralysis, since both conditions can really cripple a Terrakion in action; and, instead of Sacred Sword, it uses Double Kick against Pokemon that either hold a Focus Sash or have Sturdy for its Ability.
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      Thundurus @ Lansat Berry -> Sitrus Berry
      Ability: Prankster  
      Level: 50  
      EVs: 228 HP / 100 Def / 78 SpA / 86 SpD / 16 Spe  
      Calm Nature  
      - Role Play
      - Fling -> Taunt
      - Thunderbolt  
      - Thunder Wave
      Thundurus is the same as before, but with one difference. Earlier on, I taught it Grass Knot as an anti-Groudon move. But, as of late, I have found much more advantage with Role Play. When I think an opponent is going to switch to Groudon or when the match starts with Groudon, I have Thundurus use Role Play, mimicking Kyogre's nature and allowing it to use Scald or Water Spout in the newly applied Primordial Sea weather change. And, of course, it knows Taunt; particularly to deal with Smeargle, Sableye, Meowstic and status move-using Mega Gengar. I have run into Smeargle with other moves besides Dark Void (as I mentioned in a recent thread), but all I can do -- as someone on Pokemon Showdown's VGC chatroom suggested -- is to be prepared for anything. It also knows Thunderbolt for better accuracy (because I realize I won't always get the chance to use Thunder and not miss) and Thunder Wave (for speed control). At one time, I gave it a Lum Berry in case it gets caught in a Dark Void; but, I've found Sitrus Berry to be a better holding item for Thundurus.
       
      UPDATE: Undid the changes mentioned in the last update.
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