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Published on November 20th, 2014 | by Gonzo

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EV Training Horde Hotspots in Pokémon Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire

The release of Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire is just around the corner so I’d like to introduce you to the EV training hotspots in the new games! Don’t know what that means? Check out our previous guide.

Below are the Pokémon’s locations, levels, encounter rate and method of encounter. Also provided is the EV gain from each battle as well as calculations for modifiers so you’ll know exactly how many EVs you’ll get. For now, the guide consists of hordes only and will be updated once the full games are released. The data we have does not provide the names of locations, so these are (hopefully) correct guesses. If not, they’ll be updated when ORAS is out.

1. Changes & Basic Information

Changes from 5th Gen

  • The maximum amount of EVs in a single stat prior to XY was 255. In the 6th generation of games, it was reduced to 252, so now you don’t have to worry about going over when maxing out a single stat.
  • Horde encounters are the fastest way to EV train your Pokémon. Use Sweet Scent in an area to trigger a horde encounter.

Modifying EV Gain

  • Pokérus – doubles EVs gained, can be combined with Macho Brace and Power Items
  • Macho Brace – doubles EVs gained, halves the holder’s Speed, can be combined with Pokérus
  • Power Items – give 4 additional EV points to the corresponding stat, halves holder’s Speed, can be combined with Pokérus

Calculations for EVs per Pokémon

Don’t forget to multiply by 5 for horde encounters!

Base 3 points:

  • Pokérus / Macho Brace: 6 EVs
  • Pokérus + Macho Brace: 12 EVs
  • Pokérus + Power Item: 14 EVs

Base 2 points:

  • Pokérus / Macho Brace: 4 EVs
  • Pokérus + Macho Brace: 8 EVs
  • Pokérus + Power Item: 12 EVs

Base 1 point:

  • Pokérus / Macho Brace: 2 EVs
  • Pokérus + Macho Brace: 4 EVs
  • Pokérus + Power Item: 10 EVs

2. Hordes

It seems Game Freak has understood our frustrations with running into the wrong Pokémon while training and given us at least one location with a 100% encounter rate for each stat. We’ve listed them below with alternatives in case there are hazards in the way! As always, this list will be updated as we find even more efficient ways of doing things. These are all hordes so you want to use Sweet Scent or Honey to attract them.

HP

whismur
Location: Rusturf Tunnel
Encounter Rate: 100%
Level: 5
EVs: 1 HP each

Attack

shuppet

Location: Mt. Pyre (cemetery area)
Encounter Rate: 100%
Level: 15
EVs: 1 Atk each

Defense

sandshrew
Location: Route 111
Encounter Rate: 100%
Level: 11
EVs: 1 Def each

Note that Sweet Scent and Honey actually work in Sandstorm unlike in previous games!

Special Attack

oddish
Location: Route 119
Encounter Rate: 100%
Level: 13
EVs: 1 SpA each

spinda
Location: Route 113
Encounter Rate: 95%
Level: 9
EVs: 1 SpA each

Special Defence

swablu
Location: Route 115
Encounter Rate: 100%
Level: 10
EVs: 1 SpD each

Speed

zigzagoon wingull or taillow
Location: Route 104 (North – Wingull, South – Taillow)
Encounter Rate: 100% combined
Level: 2
EVs: 1 Spe each
Note: the route is divided into two parts by Petalburg Woods. Southern part of the route has Taillow hordes, Northern has Wingull hordes.

As soon as the full games are released, we’ll expand the guide with more methods. Thanks to Project Pokémon for providing us the data to create this guide with and good luck with your EV training!

 


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35 Responses to EV Training Horde Hotspots in Pokémon Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire

  1. DJQuack8D says:

    So glad this got posted, gonna help a lot during next season!

  2. Valkart says:

    Hi guys, can I translate this information to spanish and publish it on the website Miintendo.com, giving the proper credits?

  3. Yoship says:

    Gonzo mi amore <3

    This chart would be really helpful, so catch that small "thanks" for sharing 😉

  4. Shinelo says:

    Yeah 100% chance
    Its really annoying when you don’t get the horde you want in X/Y

  5. Shinelo says:

    Yeah 100% chance

    Its really annoying when you don’t get the horde you want in X/Y

  6. Crunchy says:

    Awesome. It’s nice to see a good reveal for a nice change of pace.

  7. demonicego says:

    I see this being very useful in the near future…

  8. Tythaeus says:

    It’s very nice to see 100% chance encounter rate. 
     
    Glad this was revealed early.

  9. Sprocket says:

    I could see myself EV training in ORAS now, assuming breeding is as painless as XY.

  10. Hibiki says:

    Glad this information is brought to our attention early, at least know I now I’m better off waiting until ORAS hits Europe before I EV the new Pokémon I am currently breeding.

  11. Gonzo says:

    Okay, guys. This is based on ORAS Demo dumps and I need a few confirmation information I can’t get until 28th (European…).

    1. The Zigzagoon & Wingull/Tailow horde is on Route 104, but the birds differs between Route’s south from Petalburg Woods art and the one north from the Forest. Which one is where?
    2. Is Sandshrew horde Desert-only? Is the sand permanent there?
    3. Is Shuppet horde AS only or does it exist in OR, too?

  12. Architeuthis says:

    Awesome. 100% chance = Even More Hype!

  13. JuicyyJuice says:

    TY so much Gonzo!

  14. Wow gonzo so helpful 

  15. Dippydunker says:

    Great article! Thanks for posting it :3

  16. Sprocket says:

    Question: Is there anything comparable to Le Wow for experience grinding?

  17. FairPlayFairGame says:

    wow thanks for the hotspot info, really helpful as always Sir.Gonzo

  18. BattleArena says:

    Continuous path for breeding, Day care & IV checker all in one.

    ‪#‎ThankYouBasedGameFreak‬

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apoN_pJg7I8#t=91

    Thought I’d leave this here. Seems like gamefreak pays attention to what we are doing and our weird ways in breeding! LOL

    Hope this helps anyone who might have been looking for a spot like this as I was! (:

  19. PreyingShark says:

    Until the guide gets updated, I feel it’s worth clarifying something here:

    This might be Game Freak’s most hated stat ever—it has never had a 100% encounter slot until now, but it’s still a bit tricky. I assume it’s the desert on Route 111 (permanent Sandstorm in RSE) with Mirage Tower or a cave nearby, since Sandshrew’s horde is listed twice and all of the other encounters are the same. If it’s Mirage Tower, don’t bring your fossil—seriously, you don’t want to deal with Aron hordes. If it’s a cave and it won’t collapse, do whatever you want.
     

    For those who haven’t heard, you can use Sweet Scent on Route 111. Just checked it myself. On one hand, that makes no sense since it’s a permanent sandstorm. On the other hand, I have no issues with it since it’s so convenient.

  20. 13ulbasaur says:

    I found that Oddish hordes were not in Route 118, but in Route 119 instead. Might want to update that.

    Also, in Route 119, you can still use Sweet scent for Horde encounters even under rain. I’m not sure if this applies to other places or not.

  21. croobaat says:

    Actually on Route 117, you can finds hordes of Roselia which give 2 spA each. Makes it a bit faster. The other horde you encounter there is 4 oddish with a zigzagoon, so it also works!

  22. EvilMario says:

    I found that Oddish hordes were not in Route 118, but in Route 119 instead. Might want to update that.
    On that note, Route 118 is actually pretty good for Speed. Thus far I only encountered Wingulls and Electrikes both of which give speed, I don’t know if there’s a super secret 5% horde I hadn’t encountered yet though.

    Also, in Route 119, you can still use Sweet scent for Horde encounters even under rain. I’m not sure if this applies to other places or not.
     
     
    Route 103 is not 100% for Speed. Poochyena Hordes are fairly common and they give Attack instead.

     
    Yep, was just about to say Poochyena are occasionally there. 
     
    Thanks for the guide though, Gonzo. It is very helpful!

  23. Gonzo says:

    Yep, was just about to say Poochyena are occasionally there. 
     
    Thanks for the guide though, Gonzo. It is very helpful!

    yeah, when I was writing the guide (late October), I didn’t have all the data (like names of locations, lol).

    I’ll update the guide once I get answers to my questions:
     

     

    1. The Zigzagoon & Wingull/Tailow horde is on Route 104, but the birds differs between Route’s south from Petalburg Woods art and the one north from the Forest. Which one is where?
    2. Is Sandshrew horde Desert-only? Is the sand permanent there?
    3. Is Shuppet horde AS only or does it exist in OR, too?
     

     

  24. Adib says:

    3. Is Shuppet horde AS only or does it exist in OR, too?

     
    It exists in OR too.
     
    Also, Swablu doesn’t appear 100% of the time. I actually encountered a horde of Seedot too, but it’s definitely a rarer horde.
     
    Thanks for writing this up Gonzo!

  25. Gonzo says:

    It exists in OR too.
     
    Also, Swablu doesn’t appear 100% of the time. I actually encountered a horde of Seedot too, but it’s definitely a rarer horde.
     
    Thanks for writing this up Gonzo!

    We’re both right, actually. As I said, I didn’t have access to location names. the 100% Swablu horde is on Route 115, thanks for pointing that out, I’ll update the guide now.

  26. Gonzo says:

    Updated the guide. All hordes should be correct now.

  27. Notal says:

    I read the part under the Sandshrews’ as in, it DOESN’T work… Let’s just say It had me stressing a bit…

  28. GuardianDiancie says:

    Great info

    Only thing I don’t understand is what does Base 1 Base 2 and Base 3 even mean

  29. Gonzo says:

    Great info

    Only thing I don’t understand is what does Base 1 Base 2 and Base 3 even mean

    By defeating a Pokemon you get a certain value of EVs. Base 1, 2, 3 indicate the “raw” value you get without help of Pokerus and/or Power Items.

  30. Musica says:

    Thanks, man. You’re a great help <3 <3 <3

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