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Published on March 10th, 2015 | by conan

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Beating Up Oregon: A 1st Place Regionals Team Report

Hello, my name is Conan Thompson, and I recently placed 1st at the Oregon Regional. Going into it, I was a bit nervous since I had a pretty bad finish at the San Jose regionals earlier in the season and I was not feeling very confident with this format. Thankfully, I was able to finish much better than I expected, so I would like to share the team I used at the event.

Team-Building Process:

What I started with was a team used by a top Japanese player on battle spot (I do not know how to contact him/her though). I really liked this team at first glance, so I wanted to try it out.

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This team has 4/6 members of my final team. The reason I ended up not using this exact team was because I was not having as much success with it as I wanted. This made me want to go back to the mega I had on my previous team, which was Mega Salamence. I thought Mega Salamence had good synergy with the Weavile Terrakion core, since Fake Out from Weavile would help Salamence set up Dragon Dances. I also wanted to keep Aegislash because it is one of the best Wide Guard users and Wide Guard support would be great for guarding Salamence from Rock Slides  and Terrakion from Earthquakes. I then built off of this core of 4 Pokemon. I was set on the last 2 being Thundurus and Mega Venusaur for a while, but the double Mega option wasn’t working out as well as I wanted. A lot of the times, when I brought Mega Venusuar, Mega Salamence would have helped out a lot as well. The day before regionals there was a Premier Challenge at the same venue and I saw a number of cool teams with Cresselia. Cresselia was a Pokemon I’ve almost never used before since I never played in 2013, but I decided to give it a shot since I still thought it would be better than what I previously had.

The Team:

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Analysis:

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Salamence-Mega @ Salamencite
Ability: Intimidate / Aerilate
EVs: 76 HP / 244 Atk / 188 Spe
Jolly Nature
– Double-Edge
– Dragon Dance
– Roost
– Protect

Salamence was my mega and I think it is one of the best ones. Double Edge was my only attack and I felt it was the only important one. Dragon Dance was used to boost Attack when I wanted more power or neutralize an intimidate drop. It also boosts my speed, which was useful against Scarfed Pokemon and Pokemon with weather speed boosts, such as Venusaur. Roost was an idea I got from Bopper. It let me easily heal up on incoming rock and electric type moves if I was faster and even take an ice type move decently well. Roost also allowed me to get off more Double Edges before fainting or dropping too low from recoil.

The EV spread is not very complicated: enough speed to outspeed max Speed Landorus-T before Mega Evolving, which helped scout for Choice Scarf (if my Intimidate went before theirs, it’s not scarfed, if theirs went before mine, they were scarfed). 244 and 252 Attack made no differences in my calcs and the rest went into HP. Recently, most Dragon Dance Mega Salamence have run more bulkier spreads without max Attack and with a non-recoil move. The reason I chose to go with near max Attack and Double-Edge was so that I can get KOs without having to set up a Dragon Dance first.

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Terrakion @ Lum Berry
Ability: Justified
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
– Close Combat
– Rock Slide
– Protect
– Earthquake

Terrakion was part of the main core of the team. The first three moves are pretty standard. I considered a variety of moves for the last slot, including Double Kick, Stone Edge, Quick Guard, and Taunt, but I chose Earthquake because it gave me another coverage attack, which is very helpful when you’re at +2 or +4 Attack and facing a Pokemon, like Aegislash, that resist both your STABS. It’s also handy against something like Heatran with redirection support. The EV spread is the standard max Atk/Spd spread.

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Weavile @ Focus Sash
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
– Icicle Crash
– Beat Up
– Low Kick
– Fake Out

Weavile is a Pokemon that I’ve really started to appreciate in this format. Not only was it great at supporting other team members, it also has very useful coverage. Of course, the main purpose of Weavile was Beat Up. Beat Up was mainly used to boost my own Terrakion’s Attack thanks to Terrakion’s ability Justified. Beat Up also had about the same power as an unboosted Knock Off at 65 Base Power and, since it hit 4 times, it lets me OHKO Gengar through their Focus Sash, which is usually unexpected. It also does good damage to Pokemon that are weak to it, such as other ghosts and psychic types, provided that I still have 4 healthy Pokemon. Icicle Crash was my choice for a STAB Ice type attack because it is the strongest one, letting me get KOs on Pokemon like Landorus-T, even after an Intimidate.

Fake Out support is always appreciated by the other team members and Weavile, having a high speed stat, can reliably Fake Out Kangaskhan and other Fake Out users. Finally, I chose Low Kick over other moves like Knock Off and Ice Shard because the coverage was important. With Low Kick, I was able to lead Salamence Weavile safely vs. teams with Bisharp. Even if Bisharp gets the Defiant boost, I can outspeed and OHKO it while Dragon Dancing with Salamence to avoid a Sucker Punch. I can also Fake Out Bisharp first if I suspect a Focus Sash. Low Kick also hits for good damage on opposing Terrakion and Kangaskhan. The ability Pressure rarely becomes a factor, but can be used to scout for Choice Scarf on a Landorus-T the same way that Salamence’s Intimidate would. The EV spread is max Atk/Spd since bulk was not needed.

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Aegislash @ Weakness Policy
Ability: Stance Change
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 Spe
Modest Nature
– Shadow Ball
– Wide Guard
– Flash Cannon
– King’s Shield

This is a completely standard Aegislash, so there is not much to say about the moveset. Wide Guard support was great for this team, mainly helping to block Earthquakes and Rock Slides. I chose not run minimum speed on this Aegislash so that I can outspeed most other Aegislash. A Shadow Ball from Aegislash with Helping Hand support from Cresselia will often get an OHKO against opposing Aegislash. I also had the option of activating my own Weakness Policy with a weak Beat Up from Weavile or an unboosted Earthquake from Terrakion, which doesn’t do too much damage unboosted.

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Thundurus @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Prankster
Level: 50
EVs: 252 HP / 76 Def / 4 SpA / 132 SpD / 44 Spe
Calm Nature
– Thunderbolt
– Taunt
– Swagger
– Thunder Wave

Thundurus was one of the last additions to the team. I knew I wanted some form of speed control and Thundurus, with its priority Thunderwave, was what I chose. Thundurus was also my main solution to redirection, Trick Room, and other status moves thanks to Taunt. Thunderbolt is standard and I choose to run the one and only Swagger over something like Hidden Power Ice mainly because, like Weaviles’s Beat Up, it could also boost Terrakion’s Attack. Terrakion would avoid the confusion thanks to its Lum berry. Of course, that was not the only reason to use Swagger.I can also use it to lessen the chance of my opponents’ Pokemon acting. Swagger did become a major factor in one tournament match, causing my opponent’s Pokemon to hit itself on a crucial turn, and it gave me an advantage in many other matches. In other words, Swagger is god. The EV spread primarily maximizes bulk, with the 44 speed EVs there to outspeed positive nature base 70s. I chose a Calm Thundurus over a Bold one because I think tanking special hits makes a bigger difference on this team, since I have no way to reduce special damage, while I have intimidate to reduce physical damage and Wide Guard to stop Rock Slides.

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Cresselia (F) @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 220 HP / 172 Def / 4 SpA / 92 SpD / 20 Spe
Calm Nature
– Psychic
– Helping Hand
– Icy Wind
– Moonlight

Because Cresselia was a last second change, I didn’t have time to make my own EV spread. Instead, I found one in a Nugget Bridge report. The spread was from Level 51‘s recent report, so big thanks to him. I chose Rocky Helmet as the item for Cresselia because I thought it would be more useful than any other item, due to how it chips away the HP of physical attackers, especially Kangaskhan. For the move set, I chose Psychic over Psyshock because most Pokemon weak to it are usually more physically defensive. I definitely wanted Helping Hand on this set, because giving a boost to some other members of the team sounded like a really good idea. Icy Wind was an alternate speed control option and it was good against Landorus, which was immune to Thunderwave. Moonlight pairs well with Rocky Helmet, as recovery allowed Cresselia to stay around much longer. Overall, I think the decision of Cresselia over Venusaur did turn out to be better for the team, so I’m happy with the decision.

Conclusion:

Overall, I am very satisfied with this team and the tournament was lots of fun as well. Unfortunately, I don’t remember many of my matches and opponents in swiss, so I couldn’t go over all the matches I had. Thanks for reading, and I hope this was enjoyable!


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30 Responses to Beating Up Oregon: A 1st Place Regionals Team Report

  1. AdventVGC says:

    The team looks really solid, and congratulations on your win!

    I would’ve loved to see how the team did against other match ups and such, but regardless, good job. 🙂

  2. RpIndaHouse says:

    I think i know who that japanese player is, his name was something like this: メカヘイ Is it the same one? I do remember facing him on Battle Spot and thinking the exact same thing, he was somewhere around the 1950’s. Although i thought his team was pretty weak to Landorus-T he did manage to play around mine for a bit, between Ice Shards and Swaggers e managed to take it out, i only know his name because i actually saved that battle since i liked his team as well. I really find the changes you made to that team interesting and it is obvious that they worked, nice team and congratulations for winning the whole regional 🙂

  3. Makenzie says:

    Very well written report,nice to have an insight into your reasoning behind this team.Weavike was interesting to me haha

  4. Dorian06 says:

    Great report. I love to see when something like weavile does well.
    Also, congrats on the win!

  5. MrGX says:

    awesome. No wonder i see ALOT of weavile terracott combos in showdown these days. Congratz on your victory!

  6. Sam says:

    Nice to see you do so well with Weavile and Terrakion, I’ve been using it an awful lot lately and I’m very much enjoying it, albeit with some different partners and moveset choices. Hope to see a lot more from you as the season progresses! 

  7. pokebeys says:

    Congrats on your win! Awesome team as well!

  8. WackaboomVGC says:

    C0nan senpai, If only I can be as good as thine ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

    But seriously, congrats man! I was never really able to use Terracott combos really well, but you seem to pull it off excellently

  9. HydreigonTamer says:

    MegaMence spreads with a little bit of bulk really do put in work against the metagame. I actually use a spread of 84 HP / 44 Def to take some common attacks in the format, this allows a lot of move diversity. I only run 224 Spe (to outspeed Max Speed Base 100s) however, but it certainly puts in work. What a great Pokemon!

  10. R Inanimate says:

    Congrats on your Regional win.
    Was rooting for a BC players final, but you beat them both of them at the end to win it all.

  11. LuxrayVGC says:

    nice report man! ive been kind of hesitant to try out weavile because of its frailty, but it seemed to work out really well for you so i may try it!

  12. GoldenEmp says:

    Congrats on your Regional win! You just convinced me to give Weavile another chance, after I convinced myself it would be utterly garbage this format.

  13. Shaman says:

    Interesting.. Any rationale why you picked pressure over pickpocket?

    In my mind a 1st turn speed check would do more good for your opponent than any good for you.. Would like to hear your explanation though.

  14. conan says:

    Interesting.. Any rationale why you picked pressure over pickpocket?

    In my mind a 1st turn speed check would do more good for your opponent than any good for you.. Would like to hear your explanation though.

    Not sure how that would benefit my opponent, most people would assume it’s max speed Weavile even without pressure activating. 

  15. starmetroid says:

    Congrats on winning Conan, I had a lot of fun in our games (except the Swiss game, I have no recollection of anything on that day before round 4)
     
    I’ve tried Pickpocket Weavile before and it is pretty bad due to the inconsistency of the ability. It rarely triggers and it can even backfire on you. If you hit a Pokemon with Life Orb you’ll steal the Life Orb and kill yourself with it. Pickpocket could also result in taking Terrakion’s Lum Berry which is undesirable. Having the speed check from Pressure is worth it IMO

  16. conan says:

    I think i know who that japanese player is, his name was something like this: メカヘイ Is it the same one? I do remember facing him on Battle Spot and thinking the exact same thing, he was somewhere around the 1950’s. Although i thought his team was pretty weak to Landorus-T he did manage to play around mine for a bit, between Ice Shards and Swaggers he managed to take it out, i only know his name because i actually saved that battle since i liked his team as well. I really find the changes you made to that team interesting and it is obvious that they worked, nice team and congratulations for winning the whole regional :)

    There are a lot of people using that team or a similar one, so there isn’t really a way to find out who originally made it. I do agree that the team didn’t have the greatest Landorus-T match-up, that was probably my main reason for not using that exact team.

  17. Firestorm says:

    Thanks for the games that weekend conan and congratulations on your double win!

  18. ImposterGaming says:

    Great job hopefully you will do great at US nationals as well.

  19. droptimo says:

    Weavile is my favorite Pokemon. I’m glad to see that it’s extremely viable in the official format this year. I usually lead with a Weavile and Togekiss/Gengar, and they pretty much neutralize any M-Kang they come across with Fake Out + TWave or WoW. Being the fastest Fake Out user gives Weavile a valuable niche.

  20. Nice Team that beat up combo is deadly.

  21. Zetta says:

    Very interesting to see your team. I was at the Oregon regionals too, running a Weavile on my team (tho forgoing Beat Up for Taunt), so I’ve always been curious to see what set you were running on it to make it to the top!

  22. GiocondV says:

    Congrats man! c: The Beat Up Terrakion combo is always powerful. And only for curiosity, is that my Thundurus? (OT: GiocondV 01049) I’ll be so glad if I know that my Thundy won a regional. Ö

  23. LithiumAcid says:

    I’m pretty sure that Japanese player goes by the name hinakohinako . This could be the team here http://hinakohinako.hatenablog.com/entry/2014/10/15/235847

    Congratulations on your win :>

  24. kingdjk says:

    Nice team Conan, I had fun with our battles, especially game 2. I definitely need to fix my Charizard spread to take those Double-Edges better.
    Congrats of course, you played ridiculously well all weekend.

  25. Shaman says:

    Not sure how that would benefit my opponent, most people would assume it’s max speed Weavile even without pressure activating. 

    weavile isnt as common so most people wont remember its speed.. pressure might give away some hints to help your opponent predict your next course of action

  26. Tmac says:

    I’m pretty sure that Japanese player goes by the name hinakohinako . This could be the team here http://hinakohinako.hatenablog.com/entry/2014/10/15/235847

    Congratulations on your win :>

    Google translate, how I adore you

  27. Smith says:

    yo what was wrong with my title??

  28. conan says:

    yo what was wrong with my title??

    You can save that idea for when you make a report ;)

  29. Biosci says:

    weavile isnt as common so most people wont remember its speed.. pressure might give away some hints to help your opponent predict your next course of action

    So you use a different ability to bank on people being idiots? Most people do know how fast Weavile is, Pickpocket is a godawful ability, and knowing when a Landorus-T is scarf is so big when you’re running Weavile/Terrakion.
     
    Gratz on the finish conan! I messed around with a similar concept earlier in the format, but never put too much thought into it. Nice to see it worked out for you

  30. Shaman says:

    So you use a different ability to bank on people being idiots? Most people do know how fast Weavile is, Pickpocket is a godawful ability, and knowing when a Landorus-T is scarf is so big when you’re running Weavile/Terrakion.
     
    Gratz on the finish conan! I messed around with a similar concept earlier in the format, but never put too much thought into it. Nice to see it worked out for you

    good point. they wouldnt risk it if their lando isnt scarfed.

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